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440 Windage Tray Removal?

  
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440 Windage Tray Removal?

 
TheDane TheDane
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 09/13
Posted: 09/05/13
02:52 AM

Hi.
I have a 1968 Charger R/T w. 440 HP engine. I am fixing oil leaks. Is it OK to eliminate the Windage Tray. I am not racing the car, just quick starts at green light sometimes  Cool It will save me 1 oil pan gasket, and eliminate possible spots for leaks, and the bolts for the oil pan seem short for 2 cork gaskets and the x-tra windage tray. The gaskets that was used when I took it apart, was only silicone between the engine block (a lot!) and the windage tray, and then a cork gasket at the oil pan.Thanks. Tom.  

IQ52 IQ52
Guru | Posts: 857 | Joined: 06/10
Posted: 09/05/13
06:12 AM

Yes, you can remove the windage tray.  

69_340_GTS 69_340_GTS
Enthusiast | Posts: 529 | Joined: 06/09
Posted: 09/06/13
09:05 AM

Except... that is not the right way to fix it. The w/t is there for a reason! First, make sure the oil pan rails are not distorted or bent. More than about 1/32" total distortion w/in a couple inch long area and you will have leaks. There is no way around this. You may need a new pan. They are cheap... Milodon makes nice stock-like pans. Second, clean of all the old silicone. 3rd, get 2 good quality gaskets (#1808 Fel-Pro) and some cement like "Gaskacinch". 4th, glue one gasket to the top of the oil pan only, glue one gasket to the top of the windage tray only. 5th, assemble carefully and torque the fasteners evenly/gradually to 180 in/lb using an inch/pound 1/4" drive torque wrench. This works on tranny pans too.  

69_340_GTS 69_340_GTS
Enthusiast | Posts: 529 | Joined: 06/09
Posted: 09/06/13
09:05 AM

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waynep712222 waynep712222
User | Posts: 127 | Joined: 04/13
Posted: 09/07/13
08:48 AM

exactly... the felpro 1808 is 5/64 thick... thats just slightly thicker than 1/16"

i don't know how thick the mopar performance version with 2 gaskets is


Mopar Performance#312-P4452099
Oil Pan Gasket Set
HEMI/Big-Block
Includes two gaskets


the much more expensive felpro 1834 are 1/64 thicker than the 1808's

Fel-Pro 1834
H/P Oil Pan Gasket
Rubber-coated/steel core
1958-79 361-440 & Hemi
3/32" thick


are you sure that you have the proper length bolts.. and all the gaskets scraped off??? they are usually glued on and almost look like they are part of the windage tray..  look closely...

i have seen a few that were glued to the block...