413 golden lion

iam restoring a 1969 super bee and im using a 1959 413 golden lion engine had only 40,000 miles on it when removed from 1959 chrysler new yorker. dont want to do much to engine, as im assume its already near 375hp. thinking about new intake(a tourquer) and carb, ing{MSD}. any suggestions as to type of intake and carb or anything else i should do. thanks very much. ps would like to have 425hp but anything over stock{?375-385?} hp should still haul ass right?  

me again after some reading i think stock hp is closer to 350hp i have stock intake but think i should upgrade to alum. and 750 holly do i need a cam? if so what kind? engine is out of car on stand so work is easy how far should i go? money is tight so i want to get the most for the least.  

Do you realize that the only trans that will bolt to that engine is the original cast iron torqueflite out of that 59 chrysler????
You could take the engine apart and put a 413 or 440 steel crank in it but that means the cost of the new crank,bearings,gaskets etc.
The cast iron trans is not the hot set up as far as performance goes. It leaves a lot to be desired compared to an aluminum 727.
You could also look into an adapter that goes between the original 59 413 and the aluminum torqueflite. Because of the space the adapter takes up it would change the position of the trans mount and you would have to shorten the driveshaft.
Also keep in mind if you intend to use the original cast iran trans there is no after market converter or even a company that would modify the original converter.
That motor was rated at 350 HP
Hope this has helped.
Dominick Rinaldi/maxwedgemaine  

i do have the original trans. why is it not as hot as the aluminum trans, is it just weight or something else. i thought the cast iron trans would be stronger and could take more hp, not that im going to be building up the motor so much as to worry about blowing any dodge trans, also i think you can adjust the shifting setup on the old cast iron, also i have the original driveshaft from the 59 newyorker. i also have like 5 aluminum 727 trans from other cars and trucks.so i could go with the adapter. the driveshaft would have to be built either way for me since i dont have the 69 bee driveshaft. thank you very much for help, i really want to restore this car and have a nice driver.  

The casat iron weighs about 50# more than the aluminum and is not very reliable.Also the cast iron used a cable to shift it not linkage.
Dom Rinaldi  

for sure. but how can aluminum be more reliable than cast iron. is it just a design thing. so you would go with the adapter and aluminum trans..  

thanks for all the help just trying to put this bee on the road not racing it, would really like to use 59 drivetrain but if it dosent make since then ill go another route thanks again  

I can assure you,after being in the performance transmissin business since 1965 and in the performance machine shop business since 1993,the cast iron is not a good unit. Go with the aluminun with an adapter and then you can use an aftermarket converter and you will be happy.
Dom Rinaldi  

They weigh more, they have a rear pump so you can push start.
They don't fit in anything other than the BIG cars.

Delenzi convertors would rebuild that and cut a lil for higher stall= $189

But I would only use the funky crank motor and heavy trans in a resto.

maxwedgemain, good info btw.  
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Dom Rinaldi thank you VERY MUCH for the info. i dont know alot about that engine and trans. i just wanted use that motor because its a big block 350hp old and i thought cool plus being that it had only 40,000 miles on it and it came from my dads 59 new yorker, i knew it would only need a new intake and carb and POW its on the road. whats wrong with the crank in that motor, you said something about using a steel crank. WHAT KIND OF CRANK DOES IT HAVE? also how is an adpater cost cant seem to find one. if you think its not worth it to use this set up i also have a 440 out of a motorhome i could use.  

also 3404spdvaliant thank you for your info. any other suggestions on the route i should take would be welcomed. like i said i do have access to a 440 motorhome motor and alum trans, but then what do i do with the 1959 413 and trans? try to sell? how much?  

beecrazy:
The crank in your 59 413 is steel that is why I said to go with the steel 440 instead of the cast 440 crank if you were going to change the crank.{They have different reciprocating weights}
But, if you already have a 440 motor home motor I would use that. It is the least amount of hassle.

If you dsecide to go with the 59 motor let me know and I will give you the person to contact that makes the adapters.
If you get a chance pick up the Feb issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines and go to page 62!!!
Don't hessitate if you have other questions.  

beecrazy: Just read the end of your last message.
The 59 engine and trans to a collector would be worth about $500.,but start higher.
Don Rinaldi  

hey thanks Dom im sure ill have more questions. im pretty sure im going with the 413 ive just got this idea stuck in my head. 350+ hp will be fast enough for me for now. would like to know what you recomend for an intake and carb. motor will be stock, stock heads, im not wanting to build a race car. my thinking is that since im not building a race motor with alot of hp or extra compression, so speeds and rmps will be mostly used in the low ranges, that i lean more towards the tourque side. also i guess MSD ingition, and headers.  so what do you think? once again your help and knowlege is extremly helpful. thanks  

also where do i look on the rear end so i can see what kind of rear end it is on the 69 super bee so i can fine out what gears it has. thanks