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jstarookie jstarookie
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 10/08
Posted: 10/17/08
12:37 PM

i just bought a 1969 super bee with a 413 in it. i am looking to rebuild it i was wondering if i could make it a higher revving motor? i don't mean ludicrous revving but 7k?  


 
3404spdvaliant.
Enthusiast | Posts: 583 | Joined: 12/07
Posted: 10/17/08
01:37 PM

It should have a 383 in it or something not a 413 however all big blocks can safely rev if equipped to, 7000 no problems, anything higher will/might get you in trouble and would require drilling out galleys to increase oiling to the mains/rods.  


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drmopar
Enthusiast | Posts: 456 | Joined: 02/08
Posted: 10/17/08
02:43 PM

7000 in a RB engine is reaching it. The 413 to 440 big block have pretty heavy parts turning in there. I would suggest a max 6500 before you need to worry. Unless you start upgrading parts such as light weight pistons, rods and oiling system.  


 
jstarookie jstarookie
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 10/08
Posted: 10/18/08
03:50 PM

i know it should have a 383 in it but its not numbers matching. which is fine by me as of right now. thank you very much for your replys i was just wondering how high i could rev it cause im rebuilding the motor here pretty soon and wanted to get input on everything  


 
AndyF AndyF
New User | Posts: 27 | Joined: 12/08
Posted: 12/07/08
10:23 AM

7000 rpm is no problem at all with a 413 since that motor will have a 3.75 inch stroke crank in it.  You need larger cylinder heads such as the Max Wedge heads to feed a big motor at higher speeds but those are readily available.  You'll want to use ARP main studs in the block and then purchase high quality connecting rods and racing pistons.  If the bottom end is properly assembled with correct bearing clearances and the rotating assembly is balanced precisely then you shouldn't have any issue running 7000 or more rpm.

I've buzzed Project 505 to 7300 rpm on the dyno and that motor has a larger 4.250 inch stroke crankshaft.  Project 505 uses SCAT connecting rods, Diamond pistons and a forged crankshaft from 440Source.  


 
3404spdvaliant.
Enthusiast | Posts: 583 | Joined: 12/07
Posted: 12/07/08
02:33 PM

After 7200 the oiling system needs modification.  


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AndyF AndyF
New User | Posts: 27 | Joined: 12/08
Posted: 12/08/08
11:02 AM

Sure, some modifications to the oiling system would be a good idea.  A deep pan is good idea and the passages from the oil gallery to the mains should all be cleaned up with a 9/32 reamer since sometimes the factory machine work was rather poor.  A HV pump with a high pressure spring is usually a good place to start but depending on the bearings used and the clearances in the bottom end it isn't always required.

We've currently been running a dry sump setup on Project 505 and so you'll see an article on that sometime in the near future.  The dry sump setup really solves a bunch of oiling issues with these big-block Mopar engines but it does require an investment in parts up front.  


 
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