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340 or 440?

 
lemming303 lemming303
User | Posts: 50 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/26/08
06:44 PM

I just found a 73 challenger rallye and it has a 340 in it. I was thinking about swapping it for a 440. I plan on making this car a sunday driver but still have enough power to take to the track. I don't mind spending money on it, although the more it will cost the longer it will take to get it.

Also, its all original so I kind of feel bad about changing the engine, but I want max power with it. Thanks.  
'73 Dodge Challenger Rallye, 340 (Just found, first project)

 
drmopar drmopar
Enthusiast | Posts: 728 | Joined: 02/08
Posted: 09/26/08
07:02 PM

It all depends on how fast you want to go, however if this is a numbers matching 340 car, then I would rebuild the 340, this will help keep the value of the car. 340's can make tons of power and are capable of pushing a e-body down a 1/4 mile.
In fact if the 340 has decent comp. and good oil pressure just use the bottom end as is and start by adding performance parts. Have a plan so when your finished you won't have to redo work.
Ideas, headers, cam, intake, carb, MSD, rebuild the heads, port & polish, aluminum rockers, high stall converter, gears.  

 
lemming303 lemming303
User | Posts: 50 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/26/08
07:31 PM

I really don't know much right now. This is my first project. All I have worked on so far is my pickup and its and 04 ford. Completely different. Anyway, I have a couple of mechanic friends who are gonna help me out, but I'm trying to learn things for myself.

I'm trying to make this thing as fast as possible. I want to KILL the kids in town with their little civics (there's a bunch in this town). I have been looking at the 6 pack intakes, what would it take to use one of these?  
'73 Dodge Challenger Rallye, 340 (Just found, first project)

 
drmopar drmopar
Enthusiast | Posts: 728 | Joined: 02/08
Posted: 09/26/08
07:58 PM

Six packs look great, however if you want to run fast you simply won't beat a RPM air-gap intake with a 750 double pumper. The 750 is one of the most street strip friendly carbs period, very tuneable and simply #1 pick among drag racers with a street strip combo.
Don't worry about the ricers, a strong 340 will beat most big blocks.
Another option is a 360, or a stroked 340 or 360. Stroking a 340 you end up with 416 cubic inchs.
A stroked 360 ends up with 408 cubes.
My theory with performance is KISS, keep it simple st___d.
My current street strip combo is a stoke bore 360, 9.5 compr. 360 LA J-heads, ported & polished. Solid lift .528 mopar cam, 1 5/8 ceramic headman headers, 750 D.P. air-gap intake, 9 1/2" converter, 4.30 gears. Runs 12.6's at 108 in a B-Body Satellite.
If I put a stroker kit in with a different cam the car would run 11.90's in street trim.
All this with a street friendly small block that gets better fuel economy than a big block and better handling all around due to less weight over the front of the car.  

 
3404spdvaliant. 3404spdvaliant.
Enthusiast | Posts: 702 | Joined: 12/07
Posted: 09/27/08
06:44 AM

You can kill the kids down the street without killing your self in the corners with a stroked 360.
You can build your 440 and do the same straight line but might wanna think about some suspension upgrades.  
age is no lock on brillance

 
lemming303 lemming303
User | Posts: 50 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/27/08
11:56 AM

OK, this is probably a dumb question but which crank do I run to stroke it to 416? Also, the RPM air-gap is the edelbrock right?  
'73 Dodge Challenger Rallye, 340 (Just found, first project)

 
3404spdvaliant. 3404spdvaliant.
Enthusiast | Posts: 702 | Joined: 12/07
Posted: 09/27/08
09:03 PM

You get different cubes with different bores from the 4' stroke crank like say the bore of a 360 at .020,0.30,.040,.060=406,408,410,414
or a 340 at .020,0.30,0.040,.060=414,416,418,422
360 std bore=4.00
340 std bore=4.040
There is a 4.1 crank available used with 6.2 length rods=425ci, call ohio crankshaft.  
age is no lock on brillance

 
AdamR AdamR
User | Posts: 78 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/28/08
04:56 AM

A 416 is a 4" stroke crank and a .303" over 340 block.  

 
lemming303 lemming303
User | Posts: 50 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/28/08
08:12 AM

Thanks guys.  
'73 Dodge Challenger Rallye, 340 (Just found, first project)

 

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