I just purchased a 1964 Dart GT,273 v-8,push-button auto. I want to drop in a stroked 440,with a 4-speed,will this set work in this car? I anticipate cutting the inner fenders for header clearence, I was also thinking of sidepipes.I also figured in frame connectors,so it won't twist itself in half on hard launches,it will be driven as much as possible when done. Will the K-frame be ok to use? Or should I replace it with something aftermarket?Thanks for any help. Lee  

gonna be tight, I would remove the inner fenders all together,you probably encounter shock tower interference which can be easily fixed by moving the passengers side a tad. definitely fenderwells as they will give you the required clearances except you may have to dent tube at master cylinder kit to clear or relocate cylinder using mp kit., side pipes? hell, your collector will be right to the outside of the car so easy job, but you will have to make a sharp 90 degree bend .just coming off collector to clear the lateral frame bracing you may need to have a slight downward bend to clear lateral chassis.I would run a 3 inch tube with 3 inch pipes and a quality muffler that goes in from the collector and in also on the outlet and forget the side pipes. ,,mock it up bro. I would use the 727 instead of the 4 speed as your gonna have to do some pounding or refab on trans tunnel 4 speed more so as its shorter than the 727 but may give you the setback needed to clear the k member using a rear sump pan and allow you to run your steering linkage though the oil pan using an aftermarket drilled oil pan or fabbing it yourself, its not hard.. if you need a new trans mount just get the 2 bolt type and redrill it if you have to. install the bb 727 case and hold it up using a jack and block of wood,install engine core and bolt it to the trans,use the hoist and install it at different heights til you find the sweet spot. this will show you where its going to sit and at what heightdont worry much about it sitting higher in chassis as you can raise the engine simply by raising plate mounts or lower it by shaving bottom of plate.stuff the heads on and see what you have to do.you probably will need a special oil pan to clear k member and steering linkage or notch k member heavily and reinforce it. electric meziere water pump for sure, the type that bolts in place of the old pump.with the 4 speed the engine will have more setback but will need a larger tunnel.radiator should be aftermarket aluminum thin core. If you move shock towers for clearance reinforce them and if you take off inner fenders reinforce the fenders,front sump pan may work with a lil k member notching, also remember the 400 is physically smaller and stroked to 451 will eat a .060 over 440 for lunch as its lighter.shortened driveshaft, bla bla bla this CAN be done as a guy I know did a few with stock type k member and stuffed hemis in them. If you decide to do it lemme know, would luv to help ya out, just too much to type ,heh  you can also raise front end for added ground clearance, lets do it man, sounds like a great project,pinion angle on rear can always be adjusted to within tolerances of engine height, my fingers hurt, YES it can be done, no it is not the best body for the combo, yes ,it has the smallest engine compartment besides the f bodies but its doable on a budget. 1 step at a time, remove inner fenders firstoff,right trans crossmember and mount, raise it up,install short block,bolt to trans check any clearance issues,remember we can always go dry sump with a flat oil pan.but first things first.do it.  

sorry, I meant to run a 2 inch tube hooker fenderwell header and 3.5 collectors  

maybe a hot lil 340 would be a better idea 64  

Hey Guys Thanks for the replys,just to update this project. I just got the car home yesterday(after finally getting the garage cleaned out).Well after alot of consideration, I decieded to put a stroked 360 in it,the reason for this is I have plans to bring this car to the 2009 Mopar Nats. and display it proudly.I still want to 4-speed it,and last nite after having the dart in its new home its 1st hour,I completly stipped the interior,only to find that most of the floor boards(mainly the rear section)needs replaced.So if any one could please tell me where I might find a company that makes such a replacement 4-speed floor plan I would really apperciate it.I was told that the early Barracudas share alot of the same parts? If thats true great.I also would like to now I don't have a plasma cutter,but I do have a butterfly die grinder, will this work just the same or should I find a friend with a plasma cutter to borrow to cut out old floor? I was not going to cut out old section til I recieve a new section. I just want to do this right the 1st. time,Mopar Muscle has been a HUGE help so far.I try to keep this project updated as it progress'es. We plan on painting it Lemon twist yellow,with a black bumbble bee strip around back, with a 71' or 72' super bee hood scoop on it. What do think?  

die grind that pos metal out with a good thin blade grinder.the 65 66 cuda hump should work or just build it without a hump.its not like its required, take care  

yes on the k frame and torsion bars. you can always install a hump, or buy an aftermarket phelonic plastic hump  

gt jegs sells a 360 408 stroker complete with everything but headers for $5000 bux,375 hp. very nice, add a better cam and have a lot more potential for hp than a 360 390 hp crate engine. the 360 magnum 390 hp engine is more costly and last I heard from a friend has an 8 month waiting list, haha, that or build a nice lil 340 or 360 yourself  

if ya got them, snag the adjustable rocker arms along with the shafts,ya may want to use them ,heck the 273 was a badas. in 66 This old man had a 66 dart since new and worked at a circle-k and I use to talk with him when I would go there. 1 day he asked if I wanted to buy the car for 100 bux. I said to myself sheiot that things not worth 100 bux but I will take it out for a joy ride as it had a 4 speed and this was back in the 80s. he kept telling me this dart is not a dart its a D-DART. I could have cared less at the time as the guy was in his mid 80s probably at the time, I just wanted to race it around. lemme tell ya that lil fer flew man, I took it out a few times and just ran the heck out of it, it was a bad as. lil car.someone got a heck of a deal when it sold a few months later. I now know it ran hi compression pistons, a .513 mech cam, big carb,8 3/4 rear, factory headers and it was 1 of 50 produced,I read the car would go 13.40s in the 1/4 ,haha I got more but this one gets me depressed more than the superbird for 800 bux, take care  

in 64 I think they used the trunnion type joint,it may be just a simple yoke change. I would checkout the dimensions and  count the shaft splines on both but think any A body 4 speed would work,the trunnion type would be cheaper to buy.  

You've made your mind up but so u know the 440 go's in and we only had to cut the fenderwells a lil about 13inch wide / 18inch tall in our 65 cuda. The eary cars had the same k member for all engines so clumbsy towers are not in the way.
I do think the stroker is more practical, have fun.